Re: IP Phone types

Kane_CCIE · ‎01-11-2007

Hi guys,

A couple of Qs re: IP phones.

1. Is there any real difference between the 79xx and the 79xx G series phones?

2. I understand there is more functionality on an old 7940 than a 7912G but the 7912G seems to be more expensive?? I got this from browsing a few reseller websites.

okanlawon.ayodeji · ‎01-11-2007

Kane, sorry this is off your topic but I am having some issues here and need help..

It has to do with customizing the background image for 7970 phones...I have promised the client this functinality and I cant seem to get it to work..

This is the erro I get when I issue the debug tftp commnad

TFTP: Looking for Desktops/320x212x12/List.xml

TFTP: sending erro 1 Nosuch file

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this is the output of my show flash..

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0 Jan 11 2007 08:07:22 +00:00 Desktops

81 0 Jan 11 2007 09:08:42 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12

82 1982 Jan 11 2007 08:19:10 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/List.xml

83 3278 Jan 11 2007 08:20:46 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/TN-netco.png

84 27328 Jan 11 2007 08:21:26 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/netco.png

85 10820 Jan 11 2007 08:22:18 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/TN-CampusNight.pn

g

86 131470 Jan 11 2007 08:22:48 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/CampusNight.png

87 9657 Jan 11 2007 08:23:34 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/TN-CiscoFountain.

png

88 80565 Jan 11 2007 08:24:44 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/CiscoFountain.png

89 138278 Jan 11 2007 08:25:04 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/Fountain.png

90 7953 Jan 11 2007 08:25:46 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/TN-Fountain.png

91 7274 Jan 11 2007 08:26:18 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/TN-MorroRock.png

92 109076 Jan 11 2007 08:26:34 +00:00 Desktops/320x212x12/MorroRock.png

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and this is my tftp-server config

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tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/List.xml

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/TN-netco.png

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/netco.png

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/TN-CampusNight.png

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/CampusNight.png

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/TN-CiscoFountain.png

tftp-server flash:/Desktops/320x212x12/CiscoFountain.png

What do you think is wrong

Kane_CCIE · ‎01-11-2007

Try taking the / off the TFTP server command

tftp-server flash:Desktops/320x212x12/List.xml

okanlawon.ayodeji · ‎01-11-2007

I have done that too...AT some point..The router loads the List.xml file howeevr, it does not load the .png files.. This is the case now

gogasca · ‎01-11-2007

Please open a new conversation for this one.

gogasca · ‎01-11-2007

1. No, only buttons change with G model we have an icon instead of labels (directories, services, settings, vm)

2. Im not a sales expert but I found only 7940G models in an internal price page, 7940 model doesnt appear, so I guess those phones are not being sold anymore, 7912G still appears

jolo07310 · ‎01-11-2007

Please see your answer below:

1. Is there any real difference between the 79xx and the 79xx G series phones?

Ans: G means Global, you can have different language sticker at the phone for messages, directories, services, settings ect button.

2. I understand there is more functionality on an old 7940 than a 7912G but the 7912G seems to be more expensive?? I got this from browsing a few reseller websites.

Ans: 7940 and 7912G are just for different purpose of usage. Functionlity wide, they pretty much same.

The price 7940 should be more expensive than 7912G, Here is the listing price without discount:

CP-7940= --> I dont think Cisco sell anymore

CP-7940G= $315.00

CP-7912G= $245.00

Please rate the helpful post.

Ken

Kane_CCIE · ‎01-11-2007

Thanks, just one more question....

What is the difference between the 7940G and 7941G and also the 7960G and the 7961G?

jolo07310 · ‎01-11-2007

Kane,

Here is your answer, hopefully help.

What is the difference between the 7940G and 7941G and also the 7960G and the 7961G?

Ans: 7941G and 7961G has a higher-resolution compare the 7940G and 7960G. And the side button can be lit also, the old model does not.

For more detail, here is the link:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5945/index.html

Ken

Rob Huffman · ‎01-11-2007

Hi Kane,

Like the others have noted, the G designation indicates the Global Icon rather than the old English Hard Key Labels that were installed on the base 7940/7960 models. Both the 7940 and 7912G are EOS/EOL the difference being the support for the 7912 continues for about 5 years for Hardware (2012) and 3 years for Software (2010). This probably explains the price difference $$ Have a look;

EoL for Cisco IP Phones with English Hard Key Labels

EoS/EoL phone models have English hard key labels. New models (G) replace English hard label keys with universal icon labels.

End of Sales (EoS) May 20, 2002

Last Date of Support May 2007

From this doc;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notice09186a0080088a2c.html

End-of-Sale and End-of-Life Announcement for the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7912G

End-of-Sale Date March 26, 2007

Last Date of Support: HW March 24, 2012

Last Date of Support: App. SW March 25, 2010

From this doc;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notice0900aecd80538042.html

Cisco Unified IP Phone 7940G

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/ps1854/index.html

Cisco Unified IP Phone 7912G

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/ps5169/index.html

Hope this helps!

Rob

Rob Huffman · ‎01-11-2007

Hi Kane,

Sorry I missed your second question :) The main difference between the 7940G/7960G and the 7941G/7961G are the "backlit" line keys and upgraded displays that are on the newer 7941G/7961G and not on the 7940G/7960G. We have many of all 4 models deployed in our environment and our users much** prefer the 41G/61G models. Have a look;

The Cisco Unified IP Phone 7941G provides two programmable backlit line/feature buttons (these line keys now change color depending on the status of the call ie: Ringing,Hold,Idle **Very nice feature**) and four interactive soft keys that guide a user through call features and functions, and audio controls for high-quality duplex speakerphone, handset, and headset. A built-in headset port and an integrated Ethernet switch are standard with the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7941G. The phone also features a ***best-of-class large, higher-resolution grayscale pixel-based LCD ***. The display provides features such as date and time, calling party name, calling party number, and digits dialed. The graphic capability of the display allows for the inclusion of higher value, more visibly rich Extensible Markup Language (XML) applications and double-byte languages.

From this doc;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet0900aecd802ff012.html

The Cisco Unified IP Phone 7940G provides two programmable line and feature keys (**not backlit**), plus a high-quality speakerphone. It also has four dynamic soft keys that guide users through call features and functions. A built-in headset port and an integrated Ethernet switch are standard with the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7940G. The phone also includes audio controls for the full-duplex speakerphone, handset, and headset. This phone also features a large, pixel-based LCD display that provides information such as date and time, calling party name, calling party number, and digits dialed. Figure 2 shows the icon buttons on the phone, with word overlay in English included in the documentation package with each phone.

From this doc;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html

Hope this helps!

Rob

jolo07310 · ‎01-11-2007

Rob, nice explanation... my 5 points from me.

Rob Huffman · ‎01-11-2007

Hi Ken,

Thanks for your kind words :) It is always great to receive such a nice nod from a fellow NetPro!

Take care,

Rob