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Nortel 61c PBX interoperability

dalyd
Level 1
Level 1

I am looking for the Call Manager gateway settings to interface with a Nortel 61C PBX (PRI)???

I am receiving an invalid information element content.

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dgahm
Level 8
Level 8

What ISDN switchtype are you using? After quite a lot of experimenting we ended up running NI2 protocol to our Nortel PBXs (61C & 81C). One limitation is that the Nortel sees NI2 as a PSTN protocol and will not allow inbound calls to tandem through and go out another PRI. I solved this by moving all the PSTN PRIs to the Call Manager. We have been running this setup troublefree for over a year.

We originally were set for D100 but continued to receive an invalid information element. Another reply stated that in D100 mode the gateway needs to be MGCP.

Then we tried DID/NI2 and ran into the same problem you mentioned. The PBX was unable to transfer DID's to an outbound trunk.

Currently we are set for 5E. The PBX was switching DID's to outbound trunks on an individual number basis. But when we used the wild card masks on the PBX to forward a range of DID's out the outbound trunk it does not work for calls coming in from the telco. But calls originating within the PBX route out to the Cisco gateway fine.

Another symptom that has appeared is that I now have a severe delay in my ring back indication.

Erick Bergquist
Level 6
Level 6

Hi,

I just helped someone doing this w/TACs help and Nortels help and heres what we needed to do.

We had to use DMS100 switchtype to Cisco gateway since as other gentleman stated 61c can't do NI2 to NI2. The nortel folks involved in job I was on said that the 61c could do user-side for DMS100 switch type and needed to see a DMS100 interface identifier of 0.

There isn't a way to set the DMS100 interface identifier in IOS that I could find and TAC also said it wasn't possible. But if the gateway is a MGCP gateway then in Call manager MGCP gateway config you can configure the port with DMS100, configure the interface identifier, and set it to emulate network. This works.

The problem we had was for SRST fallback, we can't use PRI to 61c because of the IOS issue not able to set the DMS100 interface identifer to 0. The 61c needs to see this in the SETUP message.

If anyone knows a way in IOS to get the interfacee identifer of 0 in ISDN SETUP messages w/DMS100 switchtype that would be great.

Thanks for the reply. My latest configuration is using 5E switch type. This works when we map a single DID to be switched from the PSTN to the Cisco gateway. But when we use the wild card to match a range of DID's to be switched to the Cisco gateway it stops working.

I really needed to provide SRST but may have to switch to MGCP.

My callmanager with a 3640 is currently running in conjunction with our Opt 61c here in the office. I have the PRI set up as d100 on the Nortel side and DMS100 on the Cisco side. I have had to add one command to make everything line up correctly. try the following and see if it works for you.

isdn flip-chan-flag

add this to your d-channel interface (eg. serial 1/0:23)

If you let me know I will try and print up the configurations for both devices for you to look at.

I'd be interested in seeing both sides of the cfg.

Thanks in advance.

Does this same information apply to an Option 11?

Thanks in advance!!

OK .. This is what I currently have setup between my 61c and my 3640 MGCP gateway. I am not very knowledgeable on the 61c side of the house, I leave that up to the others in my group.

This should also work on the Option11, as they are both the same thing. Just a different size

I hope this helps.

Adam's config is the only one I've seen work consistently. What works consistently for M1s, and has been implemented numerous times with success, is the following:

On the IOS gateway:

isdn switch-type primary-dms100

controller T1 1/0

framing esf

clock source line primary

linecode b8zs

pri-group timeslots 1-24

!

!

interface Serial1/0:23

isdn switch-type primary-dms100

isdn incoming-voice voice

isdn flip-chan-flag

!

!If on earlier version of IOS (12.1.x) also use

!isdn tei-negotiation first-call

!

Nortel Meridian Option X

1) Meridian 81c using NI2 Network side will only process the last 4-5 digits of any number, so tandeming to the PSTN is not possible (in fact, if the last 4-5 digits of the number sent out match a PBX phone extension that phone will ring).

2) Set Meridian PRI to S100 Network side if software allows. Successful integrations seem to be running version 22 or later on the Meridian.

3) Must set "S100" on the trunk group (RDB) and on the D-channel config. They can then set the PBX for network side.

4) Set VoIP Gateway for DMS100 User side. Caller name should work with IOS 12.2(5)+

5) Make sure PBX tech downloads MSDL channel if D channel does not come up. IMPORTANT!

6) PBX tech will also have to make sure correct parameters are set to pass calls from his PRI to CallManager to PRI on PSTN (NCOS, TGAR, others)

IOS info above can be replicated in CCM for MGCP gateways.

I'm not a Nortel M1 jockey, but good config information from the M1 that I've recorded is:

CTYP MSDL

GRP 1

DNUM 15

PORT 2

USR PRI

DCHL 25

OTBF 128

PARM RS422 DTE

CLOK EXT

IFC S100

SIDE NET

CNEG 1

RLS ID **

RCAP ND2

On a trunk (ds0)

TYPE TIE

CDEN SD

CUST 0

TRK PRI

PDCA 1

PCML MU

NCOS 2 <<< Depends on permissions in switch

RTMB 79 1

B-CHANNEL SIGNALING

TGAR 1 <<< Routing code. Could be different.

AST NO

IAPG 0

CLS CTD DTN and so on

TKID

FCAR NO

On the trunk route:

TKTP TIE

ESN NO

CNVT NO

SAT NO

RCLS EXT

DTRK YES

DGTP PRI

ISDN YES

MODE PRA

IFC S100

SBN 0

PNI 00000

NCNA YES

NCRD NO <<<< set to yes on good config

CHTY BCH

CTYP UKWN

INAC NO

ISAR NO

DARC NO

BCOT 0

DSEL 3VCE <<< also works as VOD

PTYP PRI

AUTO NO

DNIS NO

ICOG IAO

SRCH RRB <<< Can be set to LIN (linear hunt)

TRMB YES

STEP

ACOD 7979

TCPP NO

TARG 01

CLEN 1

BILN NO

OABS

INST

IDC NO

DCNO 0 *

NDNO 0

DEXT NO

ANTK

SIGO STD

ICIS YES

and so on ......