10-20-2024 06:56 AM - edited 10-20-2024 07:51 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to decide which on-prem PBX system to go with and wanted to try the Cisco Unified Communications Manager trial. I was able to get a trial license for something called Cisco Unified Communications Manager Business 3000. Then I got totally confused because I was unable to download an ISO for testing on a virtual machine without a 'contract number'. And then Cisco's website confused me further by appearing to say that Cisco Unified Communications Manager was different to Cisco Business Edition. To make this even more confusing, there appears to be Cisco Business Edition 3000, 4000, 6000 and 7000 and no obvious comparisons between them. Some Cisco pages appear to say some of these were discontinued, but they are still listed on their marketing page!!!
Can someone help? I'm looking for different PBXs on the market and have been considering Grandstream UCM and FreePBX. But I also got a Cisco phone that's meant to work with the Cisco system and I would like to try the Cisco offering.
Call Control--Unified Communications - Cisco
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10-20-2024 07:37 AM - edited 10-20-2024 07:49 AM
The actual product is Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CUCM) for call control and Cisco Unity Connection (CUC) for auto attendants and voicemail.
The Business Edition appliances are just pre-packaged x86 servers with prescribed virtual machine specs for a given scale. They were created to make a traditional telephony buyer persona less intimidated of virtualization. If you’re comfortable with VMware, ignore the BE appliances and just deploy the Cisco-provided OVAs (required to be supported) and then install from a bootable ISO. If you’re going to run this in production and expect Cisco to support it, be sure it follows all the virtualization requirements and documentation. The ISO bit is going to be tricky though. AFAIK the only way to get a bootable ISO is with a paid subscription for CUCM/CUC. The actual product will run unlicensed for 90 days if you can get ahold of the ISO though.
Fair warning: CUCM is a really mature product with a lot of nerd nobs to address various customer use cases over the last 25+ years. It was built to run everything from a small 100 user company to the largest global installs in the world - commercial and classified. It’s all in the same GUI, there isn’t a simplified starter toggle. It has, no joke, thousands of pages of documentation. This can be intimidating to learn on your own from scratch. The vast majority of new deployments these days are a simpler to learn UCaaS solutions such as Webex Calling. Not trying to scare you off. Just be clear what your objective is.
10-20-2024 07:37 AM - edited 10-20-2024 07:49 AM
The actual product is Cisco Unified Communications Manager (CUCM) for call control and Cisco Unity Connection (CUC) for auto attendants and voicemail.
The Business Edition appliances are just pre-packaged x86 servers with prescribed virtual machine specs for a given scale. They were created to make a traditional telephony buyer persona less intimidated of virtualization. If you’re comfortable with VMware, ignore the BE appliances and just deploy the Cisco-provided OVAs (required to be supported) and then install from a bootable ISO. If you’re going to run this in production and expect Cisco to support it, be sure it follows all the virtualization requirements and documentation. The ISO bit is going to be tricky though. AFAIK the only way to get a bootable ISO is with a paid subscription for CUCM/CUC. The actual product will run unlicensed for 90 days if you can get ahold of the ISO though.
Fair warning: CUCM is a really mature product with a lot of nerd nobs to address various customer use cases over the last 25+ years. It was built to run everything from a small 100 user company to the largest global installs in the world - commercial and classified. It’s all in the same GUI, there isn’t a simplified starter toggle. It has, no joke, thousands of pages of documentation. This can be intimidating to learn on your own from scratch. The vast majority of new deployments these days are a simpler to learn UCaaS solutions such as Webex Calling. Not trying to scare you off. Just be clear what your objective is.
10-20-2024 07:56 AM - edited 10-20-2024 07:56 AM
That’s very helpful, thank you. Is the virtual machine image only available via a subscription or can you buy a perpetual license? Not afraid of trying something with lots of knobs, but definitely want a trial before purchasing. We use a xen-based virtualisation system. I like the UI on the Cisco phones but it doesn’t behave properly with freePBX so I’m guessing I need the MPP license upgrade. But it would be nice to try the Cisco system before doing that.
10-20-2024 08:37 AM
Cisco stopped selling perpetual licenses years ago. There are offline license options for air gapped environments but it’s still an annuity subscription of product, including updates, and support.
VMware ESXi Is the only supported hypervisor by the way.
10-20-2024 10:50 PM
An alternative option is to try the Dcloud labs. There is a lab on Dcloud for CUCM version 15.
https://dcloud2-lon.cisco.com/content/demo/670865?returnPathTitleKey=content-view
10-22-2024 04:31 AM
Thanks, unfortunately, cloud and ongoing costs rather than a perpetual license are not an option for us.
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