10-23-2013 08:59 AM - edited 07-04-2021 01:08 AM
Hello guys thanks again for readme well I'm working with a 1262 Autonomous AP but I'm totally loss. I never work with Autonomus AP so there's my scenario.
So I have a lot of questions here and I hope you can help me.
1.- I'm just guessing but I can imeagine that my AP should be in my managenet segment? I was thinking in 192.168.2.1
2.- The switch 192.168.2.2 in the port that's is connected to my AP 1262 I have this configuration:
interface FastEthernet0/2
description AP1262
switchport trunk native vlan 81
switchport mode trunk
spanning-tree portfast trunk
So I'm not sure if this is correct.
3.- I wanto to create two SSID one called "Teachers" and the other one called "Students" my questions here are these:
I need to create another sub-interface on my router for example Fa0/0.30 with segment 192.168.30.0 /24 for Teachers and another
Fa0/0.40 192.168.40.0 /24 for students. Of course creating two SVI on my layer 3 Switch. ?
4.- Can works my layer 3 switch how DHCP server for my SSID's? something like this:
vlan 30
name TEACHERS
!
vlan 40
name STUDENTS
!
interface Vlan30
ip address 192.168.30.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Vlan40
ip address 192.168.40.1 255.255.255.0
ip dhcp pool TEACHERS
network 192.168.30.0 255.255.255.0
default-router 192.168.30.1
!
ip dhcp pool STUDENTS
network 192.168.40.0 255.255.255.0
default-router 192.168.40.1
!
5.- This is my AP configuration:
dot11 ssid TEACHER
vlan 30
authentication open
!
dot11 ssid STUDENTS
vlan 40
authentication open
!
interface Dot11Radio0
ssid TEACHER
ssid STUDENTS
station-role root bridge wireless-clients
interface BVI1
ip address 192.168.2.1
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.2.254
!
interface Dot11Radio0.30
encapsulation dot1Q 30
bridge-group 30
!
interface Dot11Radio0.81
encapsulation dot1Q 110 native
bridge-group 1
!
interface FastEthernet0.40
encapsulation dot1Q 40
bridge-group 40
!
interface FastEthernet0.81
encapsulation dot1Q 81 native
bridge-group 81
I'm really confused, I can not even see the SSID
thanks in advance
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10-24-2013 12:19 PM
You have not added SSID under the radio interfaces. SSID name (MAC-BOOK-PRO) you added to bring the interface up has not been defined.The defined SSID name was APPLE-MAC-BOOK
int d0
ssid APPLE-MAC-BOOK
!
int d1
ssid APPLE-MAC-BOOK
Also under d1.99 "native" keyword is missing.
interface Dot11Radio1.99
encapsulation dot1Q 99 native
Add those modification & check
Also did you change the switch port configuration according to your new vlan setup ?
HTH
Rasika
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10-25-2013 11:58 AM
Hi Daniel,
Glad to see you get it working.
I'll try to answer your queries like this
1. If you want your Autonomous AP for client to connect, then you can configure as Access Point, which you did in the above. If you want to connect another AP to your AP then there is 3 common options available
a. Wireless bridge (Root Bridge & Non-Root Bridge) : This is you can think of a wireless trunk link to take multiple vlan traffic across two different building where you do not have any wired option
b. Repeater : Simply extend wireless coverage, but througput wise reduce by half every hop you put in (not a good solution)
c. Work Group Bridge( Root Bridge & Work Group Bridge) : This is to connect wired client onto your wireless, specifically in industriall environment you may have certain machines (only have ethernet) with mobility, where you want to get them connected to your network (wireless is the only practical way). To support these you can configure an AP as WGB (nothing but AP configure as a client) & connect your wired client to ethernet & via radio it will connect to your wireless network.
Let's say you would have wireless bridge & you require non-root-bridge to connect wireless clients. If you use the same radio, bandwidth get shared & backhall link bandwidth is reduced. That's why it is recommended to have backhall using one radio (5GHz) & allow client to connect the other radio (2.4GHz)
2. You AP configured just as AP. If you want to extend your wireless coverage given by this AP, then you can put another AP & configured as a repeater for the first AP
3. If your intention is to connect client, then you can configure them as AP. Keep in mind since this is autonomous, each AP operating as independant unit. No communication each other (like RRM) & features like roaming is not easy. That's why Autonomous deployment in general enterprise network is no longer there.
4. Moving DHCP component to AP is very esay. You can cut & paste that config from your switch to AP.
HTH
Rasika
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10-23-2013 11:15 AM
you are correct on the approach & most of things are correct. Here is my response to your queries.
1. Yes, it is good idea to put AP management into seperate vlan. In your case you can put it onto 192.168.2.0/24 (assuming it is vlan 81)
2. Switch port configuration is correct. If you want you can restrict vlans needs to go to AP by putting "switchport trunk allow vlan 30,40,81). This is not mandatory step, but it is a good practice.
3. Yes, if your switch is L3 it is the best place to create SVI.
4. Regarding DHCP pool configuration you should have done some IP exclusions like below. If you want you can exclude only .1 IP, but I will alway exclude few more addresses in case I want to use them for other purposes. Rest of your pool configuration is correct
ip dhcp excluded-address 192.168.30.1 192.168.30.10
ip dhcp excluded-address 192.168.30.1 192.168.30.10
5. In AP configuration you got most of thing correct. Here are few small mistakes
A. In here native vlan should be 81 & not 110. Also for native vlan, bridge group should be 1 in both radio & ethernet sub-interfaces.
interface Dot11Radio0.81
encapsulation dot1Q 110 81 native
bridge-group 1
interface FastEthernet0.81
encapsulation dot1Q 81 native
bridge-group 81 1
B. In order to SSID to visible you have to configure it "guest mode". Since you have multiple ssid command should be "mbssid guest-mode" under SSID configuration.
dot11 ssid TEACHER
vlan 30
authentication open
mbssid guest-mode
!
dot11 ssid STUDENTS
vlan 40
authentication open
mbssid guest-mode
C. you should have create subinterface on both radio & fast ethernet side. sub-interface for vlan30 is missing on ethernet side & subinterface for vlan 40 is mission on radio side. So following to be added.
interface Dot11Radio0.40
encapsulation dot1Q 40
bridge-group 40
interface FastEthernet0.30
encapsulation dot1Q 30
bridge-group 30
D. Under radio interface you should configure it as "Root" access point, not as wireless bridge.
interface Dot11Radio0
ssid TEACHER
ssid STUDENTS
mbssid
station role root
station-role root bridge wireless-clients
Do these modification & see, things should work . If not let us know
HTH
Rasika
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10-24-2013 10:08 AM
Hello Rasika.
Well I change the scenario for someting for easy.
Let me tell you about new scenario:
My Management vlan is : 99 with 192.168.2.0/24
Just one SSID for now MAC-BOOK-PRO
The SVI is in my Layer 3 Switch with 192.168.30.0 /24
This is my real configuration in my ap:
p#show run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 2462 bytes
!
version 12.4
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
service password-encryption
!
hostname ap
!
logging rate-limit console 9
enable secret 5 $1$DA2t$XgdY3uWko/AwpCjruw6bB.
!
no aaa new-model
!
!
dot11 syslog
!
dot11 ssid APPLE-MAC-BOOK
vlan 30
authentication open
mbssid guest-mode
!
!
!
username Cisco password 7 123A0C041104
!
!
bridge irb
!
!
interface Dot11Radio0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
antenna gain 0
mbssid
station-role root
!
interface Dot11Radio0.30
encapsulation dot1Q 30
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 30
bridge-group 30 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 30 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 30 source-learning
no bridge-group 30 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 30 spanning-disabled
!
interface Dot11Radio0.99
encapsulation dot1Q 99 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
no bridge-group 1 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
!
interface Dot11Radio1
no ip address
no ip route-cache
antenna gain 0
dfs band 3 block
mbssid
channel dfs
station-role root
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
no bridge-group 1 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
!
interface Dot11Radio1.30
encapsulation dot1Q 30
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 30
bridge-group 30 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 30 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 30 source-learning
no bridge-group 30 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 30 spanning-disabled
!
interface Dot11Radio1.99
encapsulation dot1Q 99
no ip route-cache
!
interface GigabitEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
no keepalive
!
interface GigabitEthernet0.30
encapsulation dot1Q 30
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 30
no bridge-group 30 source-learning
bridge-group 30 spanning-disabled
!
interface GigabitEthernet0.99
encapsulation dot1Q 99 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
!
interface BVI1
ip address 192.168.2.101 255.255.255.0
no ip route-cache
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.2.3
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
ip http help-path http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/prodconfig/help/eag
bridge 1 route ip
!
!
!
line con 0
line vty 0 4
login local
!
end
Something I missed because when I see the interface with: show interface brief I get this.
Dot11Radio0 unassigned YES unset reset down
Dot11Radio1 unassigned YES unset reset down
I'm working with a Switch 3750 POE.
So I tried this:
ap#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
ap(config)#dot
ap(config)#dot11 ss
ap(config)#dot11 ssid MAC-BOOK-PRO
ap(config)#interface dot11radio 0
ap(config-if)#ssid MAC-BOOK-PRO
ap(config-if)#no shut
ap(config-if)#
*Mar 1 21:26:08.728: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to reset
*Mar 1 21:26:08.782: %DOT11-6-FREQ_SCAN: Interface Dot11Radio0, Scanning frequencies for 24 seconds
*Mar 1 21:26:33.466: %DOT11-6-FREQ_USED: Interface Dot11Radio0, frequency 2457 selected
*Mar 1 21:26:33.469: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 21:26:34.470: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 21:26:43.964: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BVI1, changed state to up
*Mar 1 21:26:44.964: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BVI1, changed state to up
But Still I can not see the SSID.
10-24-2013 12:19 PM
You have not added SSID under the radio interfaces. SSID name (MAC-BOOK-PRO) you added to bring the interface up has not been defined.The defined SSID name was APPLE-MAC-BOOK
int d0
ssid APPLE-MAC-BOOK
!
int d1
ssid APPLE-MAC-BOOK
Also under d1.99 "native" keyword is missing.
interface Dot11Radio1.99
encapsulation dot1Q 99 native
Add those modification & check
Also did you change the switch port configuration according to your new vlan setup ?
HTH
Rasika
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10-25-2013 11:35 AM
Thank you muy friend now is working. If don't bother you I have a few more questions:
I want to say I was reading your blog and you talk about three main roles on Autonomous AP, so my questions are:
1.- For Bridge mode, I was watching some videos about it, and they said that are designed for outdoor networt and you need to have two radios one for the backhaul and other for clients. So if your wireless networt desing is the easiest in indoor ambient wich of this three you recommend.
2.- Now my network is working but my AP is configured as repeater or just as AP?
3.- Ïn my desing. Imagine I have more layer 2 in different floors, Can I just configure them (AP's) as the first? or I need to choose one of the three roles?
4.- What happen if I can not setup a external DHCP, I know I can create DHCP server in cisco AP, but this DHCP will be for my wireless clients? how to configure this? and how much change my configuration now?
Thanks for your advices
10-25-2013 11:58 AM
Hi Daniel,
Glad to see you get it working.
I'll try to answer your queries like this
1. If you want your Autonomous AP for client to connect, then you can configure as Access Point, which you did in the above. If you want to connect another AP to your AP then there is 3 common options available
a. Wireless bridge (Root Bridge & Non-Root Bridge) : This is you can think of a wireless trunk link to take multiple vlan traffic across two different building where you do not have any wired option
b. Repeater : Simply extend wireless coverage, but througput wise reduce by half every hop you put in (not a good solution)
c. Work Group Bridge( Root Bridge & Work Group Bridge) : This is to connect wired client onto your wireless, specifically in industriall environment you may have certain machines (only have ethernet) with mobility, where you want to get them connected to your network (wireless is the only practical way). To support these you can configure an AP as WGB (nothing but AP configure as a client) & connect your wired client to ethernet & via radio it will connect to your wireless network.
Let's say you would have wireless bridge & you require non-root-bridge to connect wireless clients. If you use the same radio, bandwidth get shared & backhall link bandwidth is reduced. That's why it is recommended to have backhall using one radio (5GHz) & allow client to connect the other radio (2.4GHz)
2. You AP configured just as AP. If you want to extend your wireless coverage given by this AP, then you can put another AP & configured as a repeater for the first AP
3. If your intention is to connect client, then you can configure them as AP. Keep in mind since this is autonomous, each AP operating as independant unit. No communication each other (like RRM) & features like roaming is not easy. That's why Autonomous deployment in general enterprise network is no longer there.
4. Moving DHCP component to AP is very esay. You can cut & paste that config from your switch to AP.
HTH
Rasika
***** Pls rate all useful responses *****
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