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HTTP and HTTPS not working

Hi 

Actually i am working on 8510 WLC and suddenly I can't access the WLC via https nor http even though are enabled

I checked the certificate validity of webadmin it shows that expired 2024 but WLC time is 2022 amd actually also new access points not joining 

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    - @Turki.A.Baqatada                    You can deploy and use the 9800-CL (virtual) controller without any licensing 
                                                        complaints for up to 50 access points.
         
                                                       >....Join message decode Maximum message size Failed
                                                      You will get into compatibility problems if you let the access points use a
                                                      9800 controller and try to go back to an aireos controller with a too old
                                                      version

                                                     + What error do you get in  a browser when trying to use the GUI ?

  M.



-- Let everything happen to you  
       Beauty and terror
      Just keep going    
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Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

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> so you this message Join message decode Maximum message size Failed means that it is comatibility issues du joined to 9800 ?

Yes - the CAPWAP version used by the new 9800 AP code is not compatible with 8.0.152.0.
You will need to manually install the 8.0.152.0 AP code (153-3.JA12) on each AP using TFTP:
https://software.cisco.com/download/home/285029865/type/280775090/release/15.3.3-JA12

Regarding the http/https: http does not require a certificate - probably just needs WLC reboot. https - regenerate the certificate and then reboot the WLC as advised in previous replies.

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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
AP supported channel lookup: https://apchannels.cisco.com/

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Mark Elsen
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  - @Turki.A.Baqatada                   Post the full boot process of an access point that fails to join, if this happened
                                                    suddenly then try a reboot of the controller.

  M.



-- Let everything happen to you  
       Beauty and terror
      Just keep going    
       No feeling is final
Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

Actually now I want to resolve web access first that will helps me alot 

My question that if the validity of web admin certificate expired on 2024 and I configured the time to be on 2022 which right now configured will bypass this issue or not and if not what could be the solution 

aleabrahao
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@Turki.A.Baqatada Try regenerating the certificate as I suggested.

I am not a Cisco employee. My suggestions are based on documentation of Meraki best practices and day-to-day experience.

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aleabrahao
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@Turki.A.Baqatada A very important detail I forgot to mention, when generating a new certificate, it is necessary to restart the WLC.

I am not a Cisco employee. My suggestions are based on documentation of Meraki best practices and day-to-day experience.

Please, if this post was useful, leave your kudos and mark it as solved.

 

  @Turki.A.Baqatada                  >....Actually now I want to resolve web access first that will helps me a lot 
                                                     What error do you get in a browser when trying to use the GUI ?

  M.
                                                      



-- Let everything happen to you  
       Beauty and terror
      Just keep going    
       No feeling is final
Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

aleabrahao
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If the Web Admin certificate is actually expired, recreate it.
 
config certificate generate webadmin
I am not a Cisco employee. My suggestions are based on documentation of Meraki best practices and day-to-day experience.

Please, if this post was useful, leave your kudos and mark it as solved.

aleabrahao
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Oh, and also correct the date and time of your WLC.

I am not a Cisco employee. My suggestions are based on documentation of Meraki best practices and day-to-day experience.

Please, if this post was useful, leave your kudos and mark it as solved.

aleabrahao
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@Turki.A.BaqatadaJust a heads-up, are you aware that this controller model is no longer supported? You should consider migrating to a C9800.

I am not a Cisco employee. My suggestions are based on documentation of Meraki best practices and day-to-day experience.

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Yes I know and we are going to move soon 

Rich R
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@Turki.A.Baqatada Have you rebooted the WLC for a start?

You should be using the final release of code 8.5.182.12.

new access points not joining 
Read through all the relevant Field Notices in my signature below - make sure you follow all the steps required to resolve them (disable NTP and set time back is only 1 step of many).
What model are the new APs?

Collect the complete console log from an affected AP from power on, save to a text file (.txt) and attach here for us to see what the AP reports.
What do these commands on WLC CLI (no GUI needed) show?
show ap join stats summary all
show ap join stats summary <ap-mac>

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Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Accept as Solution if this answered your query.
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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
AP supported channel lookup: https://apchannels.cisco.com/

@Rich R  actually let my explain you the full picture here 

first of all we are installing 9800 as a demo and for testing we installed AIR-CAP3702I-E-K9 airos APs to check if it is going to join and joined successfully but now due no license we want to return thes APs to join our old 8510 WLC version 8.0.152

What model are the new APs?

AIR-CAP3702I-E-K9

show ap join stats summary <ap-mac>-

Reason for last unsuccessful join attempt................ Join message decode Maximum message size Failed

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Second issue that we are facing and tried alot of things which is i can't access gui

  1. I tried many browsers old and new version but no luck
  2. I tried loging via service port same issue 
  3. I tried http and https as both enabled also didn't work

show time 

Time............................................. Tue Jul 12 11:47:15 2022

web admin certificate

Start : 2014 Apr 23rd

End : 2024 Apr 23rd

for AP logs 

access point in remote site and can not provide now 

 

    - @Turki.A.Baqatada                    You can deploy and use the 9800-CL (virtual) controller without any licensing 
                                                        complaints for up to 50 access points.
         
                                                       >....Join message decode Maximum message size Failed
                                                      You will get into compatibility problems if you let the access points use a
                                                      9800 controller and try to go back to an aireos controller with a too old
                                                      version

                                                     + What error do you get in  a browser when trying to use the GUI ?

  M.



-- Let everything happen to you  
       Beauty and terror
      Just keep going    
       No feeling is final
Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

 What error do you get in  a browser when trying to use the GUI ?

Secure connection failed 

so you this message Join message decode Maximum message size Failed means that it is comatibility issues du joined to 9800 ? if so what can we do to resolve this issue and let them join 8510 WLC ? do i have to hard reset APs 

> so you this message Join message decode Maximum message size Failed means that it is comatibility issues du joined to 9800 ?

Yes - the CAPWAP version used by the new 9800 AP code is not compatible with 8.0.152.0.
You will need to manually install the 8.0.152.0 AP code (153-3.JA12) on each AP using TFTP:
https://software.cisco.com/download/home/285029865/type/280775090/release/15.3.3-JA12

Regarding the http/https: http does not require a certificate - probably just needs WLC reboot. https - regenerate the certificate and then reboot the WLC as advised in previous replies.

------------------------------
Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Accept as Solution if this answered your query.
------------------------------
TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
AP supported channel lookup: https://apchannels.cisco.com/
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