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Mobility Express vs EWC

jmprats
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Mobility Express and AireOs are legacy and it seems that they will disappear with the EoL of Cisco 802.11ac AP
The option for small networks is to migrate to EWC.

Mobility Express and AireOs were great for those small networks and were very easy to manage

Now, I've been doing some testing with EWC and it's really complicated. You have to create tags, profiles and WLAN for a single SSID to work!

I don't know if it's just me or I have to get used to the new configuration model, but EWC doesn't seem like a product for a small network to me. Too much complexity.

Perhaps Meraki is a better product for those cases, but you can't migrate from Mobility Express to Meraki without changing all the APs.

Maybe someone with experience in such cases can shed some light.

Thank you

 

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Rich R
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I'd recommend 17.6.4 as a good starting point (as long as you don't need to support wave 1 APs) but always check the TAC recommended link in my signature below.
Yes 9800 is quite different and takes some getting used to - you just have to stop thinking in AireOS terms.  Having it all in IOS-XE is a huge plus factor for me. 

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TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390

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Mark Elsen
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 - FYI : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/ewc/17-11/matrix/MEandEWCFeatureComparisonMatrix.html , in the end EWC is more embedded 9800 and you need all those tags but it is not that complicated. As you also state modern access points will need EWC. You can also use WirelessAnalyzer to inspect an EWC configuration   with the CLI command : show  tech   wireless , have the output analyzed by  https://cway.cisco.com/tools/WirelessAnalyzer/  , please note do not use classical show tech-support (short version) , use the command denoted in green for Wireless Analyzer.               Checkout all advisories!

 M.



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Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

Thanks for the info. Any recommended version for begin a new EWC installation with C9120AX?


 - Ref : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/compatibility/matrix/compatibility-matrix.html , check it out for all compliance issues and info's

M.



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       Beauty and terror
      Just keep going    
       No feeling is final
Reiner Maria Rilke (1899)

Rich R
VIP
VIP

I'd recommend 17.6.4 as a good starting point (as long as you don't need to support wave 1 APs) but always check the TAC recommended link in my signature below.
Yes 9800 is quite different and takes some getting used to - you just have to stop thinking in AireOS terms.  Having it all in IOS-XE is a huge plus factor for me. 

------------------------------
Please click Helpful if this post helped you and Accept as Solution (drop down menu at top right of this reply) if this answered your query.
------------------------------
TAC recommended codes for AireOS WLC's   and   TAC recommended codes for 9800 WLC's
Best Practices for AireOS WLC's,   Best Practices for 9800 WLC's   and   Cisco Wireless compatibility matrix
Check your 9800 WLC config with Wireless Config Analyzer using "show tech wireless" output or "config paging disable" then "show run-config" output on AireOS and use Wireless Debug Analyzer to analyze your WLC client debugs
Field Notice: FN63942 APs and WLCs Fail to Create CAPWAP Connections Due to Certificate Expiration
Field Notice: FN72424 Later Versions of WiFi 6 APs Fail to Join WLC - Software Upgrade Required
Field Notice: FN72524 IOS APs stuck in downloading state after 4 Dec 2022 due to Certificate Expired
- Fixed in 8.10.196.0, latest 9800 releases, 8.5.182.12 (8.5.182.13 for 3504) and 8.5.182.109 (IRCM, 8.5.182.111 for 3504)
Field Notice: FN70479 AP Fails to Join or Joins with 1 Radio due to Country Mismatch, RMA needed
Field Notice: FN74383 APs Running 17.12.4/5/6/6a May Run Out of Flash Space Preventing Upgrades
How to avoid boot loop due to corrupted image on Wave 2 and Catalyst 11ax Access Points (CSCvx32806)
Field Notice: FN74035 - Wave2 APs DFS May Not Detect Radar After Channel Availability Check Time
Leo's list of bugs affecting 2800/3800/4800/1560 APs
Default AP console baud rate from 17.12.x is 115200 - introduced by CSCwe88390
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