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UCCX 10.5 max agents to change from 300 to 400

Hi All,

 

I need to extend UCCX (in HA mode) capability from 300 to 400 agents.

 

Since the actual servers are based on OVA template for 300 agents the only way is via DRS backup by creating new VMs based on 400 agents if I'm correct.

 

Can be done without service interruption not switching both of the servers OFF?

 

my concerns are:

- Since the new VMs (Master and Slave) should be built by using the same network configuration (also administrator credentials, security password) and that old server definitely should be turned off, which one is under restoration onto the new VM otherwise IP address conflict can happen?
- Can cause any problem that if one server restored with template 400 but the other one is still with template 300?
- Will the license file also be restored?


so if service could not be stopped I think following steps can be done:
- make backup from UCCX Cluster
- create VMs for Master and Slave based on VM template for 400 agents
- shut Master server down (Server_1)
(slave will switch to Master role)
- install UCCX on one of the created new VM with the network config for Master server (Server_1)
(during installation set this server as first node)
- after installation of Server_1 do data restore on it
>> what to do after this point?
to follow the steps on link below(?):
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_10_5/maintain_and_operate/guide/UCCX_BK_CEE84C5F_00_cisco-unified-contact-center-express-operations-guide-10-5/UCCX_BK_CEE84C5F_00_cisco-unified-contact-cente...

 

Restore Only First Node in HA Setup (with Rebuild)?

 

after that

 

on same link
Restore Second Node in HA Setup (with Rebuild)?


Many thanks

 

Kind regards,
Tibor

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Hi there

Unfortunately redeploying OVA and rebuilding UCCX is the only option for you.

 

  1.  Backup from existing UCCX Cluster
  2. Shutdown the UCCX Pri and HA
  3. Deploy the new OVA
  4. Install UCCX PRI and HA with same hostname/ip address/credentials etc 
    1. Check the deployment model while installing HA (LAN or WAN)
  5. Restore backup
  6. Get the new license mac and approach licensing@cisco.com
  7. Verify all services back in Active
  8. Check the DB check
  9. Check the JTAPI/Data sync
  10. Back up

 

Hope this Helps

Cheers
Rath!
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You do not need to re-build new UCCX cluster. Adding of vCPU and vRAM is supported for UCCX virtual machines (adding vDisk and vNIC is NOT supported), but you must match resources as specified in OVA Template. In your case, you only need to increase vCPU from 2 to 4 and vRAM from 8GB to 16GB for both UCCX virtual machines. The existing vDisk size of 2x146GB meets the specification for 400 Agents OVA template.

Check these sections for more details:

Resize Virtual Machine

VMware Feature Support for Contact Center

 

 

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Thanks, Vaijanath S.
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Hi Vaijanath,

 

This is what I thought initially, that need to add vCPU and vRAM (as you also pointed HDD is same like for 400 agents), but saw lot of posts here that DRS is needed, since OVA locks the max number of ports.

 

So now I'm little bit confused.

 

Thanks,

Tibor

 

 

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OVA locks the max ports. Nothing will stop you from adding cpu and ram, and match the ova however this will not update everything to be alike with the 400 agent ova. Also, doing so may not be tac supported.

DRS is usually the safe and recommended way. Ideally, your VM Host will have both the old server and the new ova deployed together. After building and restoring the new server, if you find any cause for concern, you can shut it down and power back up the old one and resync JTAPI and CTI data. Its a pretty safe failback.
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Hello Mike,

 

Many thanks for your valuable information again.

 

just one more addition:

I also want to upgrade the UCCX Cluster (from 10.5) to 11.6, so I guess after I have moved application into the new VMs (HA mode) I can do migration via PCD.

 

My question is around license before upgrade:

after moving UCCX Servers from the old 300 template VM to 400 template VM should I ask for license for the 10.5 from licensing team or that will not needed and will also be restored?

(Of course after upgrade to version 11.6 I need new license to install)

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Regards,

Tibor

 

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-> Migration task for UCCX using PCD is not supported. Only fresh install and upgrade task is supported for UCCX. Check Supported Tasks for Cisco Unified Contact Center Express.

 

-> When you deploy new UCCX virtual machines using new OVA template, it will generate new license MAC address. At this moment, you need new license file for version 10.5. When you do the upgrade from 10.5 to 11.6, then again you will need new license file for version 11.6.

 

 

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Thanks, Vaijanath S.
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If you want 400 simultaneous active agents then yes, you do need to re-build new UCCX cluster to increase the capacity.

 

 

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Thanks, Vaijanath S.
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One other thing to call out here: 400 agents, or even 300, is pushing the envelope of what CCX is capable of supporting. Be certain your solution will fit within the published limits. For example, the BHCC limit of 6000 will require call connection times of four minutes depending on your abandonment rate to stay under the cap at 400 people. Also be confident that CPS spikes are highly unlikely for your workload since CCX is only capable of 1.6 calls per second. Other limitations such as team size or quantity of supervisors also frequently become problematic at this scale. Review the SRND:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_11_6/design/guide/uccx_b_uccx-solution-design-guide/uccx_b_uccx-solution-design-guide_chapter_01001.html

 

Also consider using the UC Sizing Tool to validate everything. I believe this tool still requires partner-level access:

https://cucst.cloudapps.cisco.com/landing