03-06-2023 10:56 PM
What is the use case of "Out of Dialog Refer CSS" on SIP Trunk?
03-06-2023 11:20 PM
03-07-2023 12:34 AM
I already seen the CUCM Help Page but not really clear.
03-07-2023 01:06 AM
And which part is not clear? What's an "out of dialog refer"? If yes, probably google helps.
The only scenario where I configure it, is in conjunction with Unity. Then this CSS is used, if Unity transfers the call back to CUCM.
In conjunction with CMS, the "Rerouting CSS" is used.
03-07-2023 01:47 AM
I googled and I didnt find clear explanation. I seen example that puts a CSS in the Out of dialog refer css field but without giving the reason.
For Unity Connection Transfer Rules, the Rerouting CSS must be used to allow the transfer but I dont think the Out-Of-Dialog CSS is needed in this case because I configured Unity Transfer Rules without it and it works.
03-07-2023 02:35 AM
This allows the SIP server on the other end of the trunk to issue a REFER for a call that it is not involved in, ie out of dialog. The most common (legitimate) example is CUC MWI. Treat this as sensitive; the CSS probably should be limited to on-net destinations.
03-07-2023 03:06 AM
But MWI is sent with the SIP NOTIFY message.
03-07-2023 10:04 AM
It does use Notify, but it is sent out of dialogue.
09-28-2024 07:28 AM
Hey Jonathan
On traces for Unity MWI for SIP integration i don't see SIP REFER messages, only NOTIFY messages:
Example (This was from another post but very similar to my traces):
NOTIFY sip:216181@10.106.117.132 SIP/2.0
From: sip:10.106.117.132;tag=185be2450fa4498f9ad928a998f4cc11
To: sip:216181@10.106.117.132
Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.106.117.133:5060;branch=z9hG4bK83d91e663e4d47768465116b5a37666c
Max-Forwards: 70
Contact: sip:10.106.117.133:5060
Call-ID: faa6de08ae424acc8dda1cc260e732ed@10.106.117.132
CSeq: 300 NOTIFY
Event: message-summary
Content-Length: 73
Content-Type: application/simple-message-summary
Messages-Waiting: yes
Voice-Message: 4/0 (0/0)
Fax-Message: 0/0 (0/0)
https://community.cisco.com/t5/collaboration-knowledge-base/understanding-troubleshooting-mwi-on-unity-connection/ta-p/3162948
09-28-2024 12:37 PM
SIP MWI is an unsolicited notify. For CUCM to accept it, the SIP Trunk Security Profile must be configured to allow it and the DN must be in a Partition of the Out-of-Dialog Refer CSS. In hindsight, Cisco should have named it differently.
SIP Refer is used by CUC for unsupervised transfers and is subject to the rerouting CSS. IIRC Outlook ViewMail and the CUC admin prompt player both use an out-of-dialog replaces to initiate the play via phone behavior. It’s been a long time since I have looked at those traces though and I can’t recall whether that uses rerouting or out-of-dialog CSS.
09-28-2024 06:25 PM
Indeed not the best name and nice explanation, REFER messages not used only that SIP NOTITY (for MWI) uses a CUCM CSS that has refer on it.
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